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that bought bashar assad time. we gave russia veto power, and meanwhile 30,000 syrians dead. >> what would my friend do differently? if you notice he never answers the question. >> we would not be going through the u.n. in all of these things. >> you don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe, the turks believe, the jor deignians believe, the saudis believe are the free force inside of syria. that is under way. our allies were all on the same page-- nato as well as our arab allies in terms of trying to get a settlement. that was their idea. we're the ones that said enough. with regard to the reset not working, the fact of the matter is that russia has a different interest in syria than we do, and that's not in our interest. >> what happens if assad does not fall? congressman ryan, what happens to the region? what happens if he hangs on? what happens if he does? >
that bought bashar assad time. we gave russia veto power, and meanwhile 30,000 syrians dead. >> what would my friend do differently? if you notice he never answers the question. >> we would not be going through the u.n. in all of these things. >> you don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe, the turks believe, the jor...
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sresident assad's regime is fighting for the survival, and it's unlikely that he wants to antagonize a powerful neighbor like turkey. but the bloody chaos that's cost housanf thousands of lives inside syria, now threatens to entangle other countries, even if they don't really want to fight. holly williams, cbs news, istanbul, turkey. gh axelrod: now to afghanistan where two u.s. soldiers were .illed today by insurgents. it happened in the eastern section of the country that's seen heavy fighting in recent months. tomorrow marks the 11th anniversary of the start of the fghan war. coming up, a vatican insider nvicteted. stay with us. >> axelrod: at the vatican the verdict is in-- the pope's butler did it, found guilty of stealing papers from his boss and leaking them to the press. alan pizzey has been following intrigueigue. o reporter: paolo gabriele's record of seven years of alithful service as the papal ogyler and his apology to vinedict xvi earned him a reduced sentence. he said he acted out of what he called a visceral love for the church and the pope and told the court, "i do no
sresident assad's regime is fighting for the survival, and it's unlikely that he wants to antagonize a powerful neighbor like turkey. but the bloody chaos that's cost housanf thousands of lives inside syria, now threatens to entangle other countries, even if they don't really want to fight. holly williams, cbs news, istanbul, turkey. gh axelrod: now to afghanistan where two u.s. soldiers were .illed today by insurgents. it happened in the eastern section of the country that's seen heavy...
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to work with other nations to arm rebels in syria with weapons that can defeat president bashir al assad's army. at a rally in florida, romney promised to be a strong international leader if elected. >> when i'm president i'll take the care it takes to rebuild our principles and restore the principles that made america strong. >> reporter: the republican nominee couldn't resist taking another shot at the president's debate performance. >> now of course days later we're hearing his excuses and next january we'll watch him leave the white house for the last time. >> reporter: romney and the president have two more debates cancelleded. later this week is the vice presidential debate. now the obama camp is dismissing the romney speech saying it's a third or fourth time to explain his global intentions. on a fundraising note the president raised $181 million last month. >> there are two presidential debates left in campaign 2012. but on thursday the vice presidential candidates go head-to-head. usually there's little attention paid to the debate between vp candidates who rarely play a role who
to work with other nations to arm rebels in syria with weapons that can defeat president bashir al assad's army. at a rally in florida, romney promised to be a strong international leader if elected. >> when i'm president i'll take the care it takes to rebuild our principles and restore the principles that made america strong. >> reporter: the republican nominee couldn't resist taking another shot at the president's debate performance. >> now of course days later we're hearing...
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to the syrian's request for freedom and he would do more to help the opposition against bashar al- assad. >> i'll work with our partners to identify and organize members of the opposition who share our whoes and then ensure that they obtain the arms they need to defeat assad's tanks and helicopters and fighter jets. >> reporter: romney also delivered his harshest assessment yet of the ministstration's evolving response to the attacks in libya. assauls latest assault can't be blamed on a reprehensible video insulting islam-- despite the heministration's attempts to convince us of that for so long. no, as the administration has finally conceded, these attacks erat the deliberate work of terrorists. they use violence to impose violr dark ideology and others. >> reporter: romney has been critical of the way the eyesident has handled libya, he iticalted humanitarian aid when ibe president advocated that but esidenhe president last year called for qaddafi's ouster, scott, romney accused him of omneng ad hoc determinations and saying he didn't have a long- term strategy. >> pelley: as you might
to the syrian's request for freedom and he would do more to help the opposition against bashar al- assad. >> i'll work with our partners to identify and organize members of the opposition who share our whoes and then ensure that they obtain the arms they need to defeat assad's tanks and helicopters and fighter jets. >> reporter: romney also delivered his harshest assessment yet of the ministstration's evolving response to the attacks in libya. assauls latest assault can't be blamed...
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hillary clinton was the one who called assad a reformer. paul ryan was correct when he said that. >> okay. now, hold your horses for a second. we went back and found that secretary clinton actually said and she does not call mr. assad a reformer. to suggest otherwise is a complete distortion. she's actually referring to other senators who went over who described him as such. so that was an outright lie, but i guess the spokeswoman has now been affected by the same disease. we lie about our marathon times, we lie about gm motors and the factory, and then we lie about what the secretary of state says. that's just the norm now, is it? >> and we clech our pearls about how mean and nasty the democrats are. we just won't let us say what we want to say that isn't true. when you lose a debate you sort of clutch for anything and grab for anything. the fact that almost everyone who is speaking up for the romney/ryan ticket today is focused on syria. syria, the one issue that was discussed last night that 99.9% of voters are not voting on in this elec
hillary clinton was the one who called assad a reformer. paul ryan was correct when he said that. >> okay. now, hold your horses for a second. we went back and found that secretary clinton actually said and she does not call mr. assad a reformer. to suggest otherwise is a complete distortion. she's actually referring to other senators who went over who described him as such. so that was an outright lie, but i guess the spokeswoman has now been affected by the same disease. we lie about...
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we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances. putting american troops on the ground, that has to be within the national security interests of the american people. embargoes and sanctions -- those are things that do not put american troops on the ground. if you are talking about putting troops on the ground, only in our interests. >> i want to return home for the last few questions. this debate is historic. we have two catholic candidates, first time on a stage such as this. i would like to ask you both to tell me what role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion
we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own...
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after international pressure, then president obama said bashar assad should go. it's been over a year. the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people, and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country, so the longer this has gone on, the more people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified a free syrian army, freedom fighters, working with alice, the turks, the qataris, the saudis, had we had a better plan in place working with our allies. but, no, we waited for kofi annan to come up with an agreement with the u.n. that bought bashar al assad time. we gave russia veto power over our efforts through the u.n. and meanwhile about 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? you notice, he never answers the question. >> we wouldn't be go through all of the u.n. and all of these things. >> we don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe, the turk
after international pressure, then president obama said bashar assad should go. it's been over a year. the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people, and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country, so the longer this has gone on, the more people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified a free syrian army, freedom fighters, working with alice, the turks, the qataris, the saudis, had we had a better plan in place working with our allies....
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we should not have called bashar assad a reformer. and we should not have -- >> what's your criteria? >> we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about it. they're still arming the man. iran is flying flights over iraq to help -- >> and the opposition is being armed. >> to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq, we probably would have been able to prevent that. he failed to achieve that as well. >> let me ask you quickly. what's your criteria for intervention? >> yeah. >> in syria? >> worldwide. >> what is in the national interest of the american people. >> how about humanitarian interests? >> what is the national security of the american people? it has to be in the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the ground, that's got to be within the national sec
we should not have called bashar assad a reformer. and we should not have -- >> what's your criteria? >> we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about it. they're still arming the man. iran is flying flights over iraq to help -- >> and the opposition is being armed. >> to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq,...
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syria are in fact being fired by weapons that turkey provided to the rebels to help them fight the assad regime so you have those rather i want to situation where turkey is being fired on by weaponry that itself supplied to the rebels in addition to those we're also now receiving several reports that the syrian army of the kurdistan workers party is forming an army just fifteen kilometers from the turkish border and now the fighting which is concentrated in northern syria has seen kurds take advantage of the situation never really came to several cities their economy they wanted independence from damascus but they have also now becoming a problem for turkey turkey of course is no stranger to the kurdish problem just overnight turkish jets were firing at kurdish china in northern iraq so here too you have a situation where turkey in its assistance to the rebels to find assad is now having to fight we could see and seen an escalation in that problem as well. and a change of course in the middle east and later we'll look at mitt romney's criticism of who was foreign policy and why the repub
syria are in fact being fired by weapons that turkey provided to the rebels to help them fight the assad regime so you have those rather i want to situation where turkey is being fired on by weaponry that itself supplied to the rebels in addition to those we're also now receiving several reports that the syrian army of the kurdistan workers party is forming an army just fifteen kilometers from the turkish border and now the fighting which is concentrated in northern syria has seen kurds take...
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and asked how could bashar al assad do this. i went to apologize to the syrian people because i worked for this butcher this killer regime. >> reporter: a tearful apology, but his sincerity is questionable, when coming from a man who admits to spending years lying for the syrian regime. ivan watson, cnn, istanbul. >> ivan watson, thank you. >>> u.s. consulate attacked, ambassador killed and now some lawmakers were demanding ansers from the obama administration over what exactly happened and that includes congressman jason chaffetz who just returned from libya. he'll join me live and tell me what he discovered next. it's hard to see opportunity in today's challenging environment. unless you have the right perspective. bny mellon wealth management has the vision and experience to look beyond the obvious. we'll uncover opportunities, find hidden risk, and make success a reality. bny mellon wealth management >>> it has been almost a month now since four americans were killed in libya, u.s. ambassador chris stevens, foreign service o
and asked how could bashar al assad do this. i went to apologize to the syrian people because i worked for this butcher this killer regime. >> reporter: a tearful apology, but his sincerity is questionable, when coming from a man who admits to spending years lying for the syrian regime. ivan watson, cnn, istanbul. >> ivan watson, thank you. >>> u.s. consulate attacked, ambassador killed and now some lawmakers were demanding ansers from the obama administration over what...
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>> i think russians have standing behide the assad regime. their last clients, they're in the middle east. it's their only naval base in the mediterranean. russians always wanted to have access to the seas, russia is a landlocked country so losing syria and that space is a big loss but there's other elements. russia does not like the fact that syria's fall is going to create yet another sunni dominated state. russia feels it has a soft belly of sunni muslims. >> warner: in its own country? >> in its own country and it doesn't want to see sunni political excitement built to its which could resonate to russia. the russias are looking at turkey's piftd and turkey has come back closer to the united states and they're not krtable with that because they saw nato and turkey and the united states get together and take out qaddafi and they don't want that to happen again to another ally. last but not least this is also putin's primal fear that if he sets up a precedent of supporting an uprising and the international community to back that uprising, th
>> i think russians have standing behide the assad regime. their last clients, they're in the middle east. it's their only naval base in the mediterranean. russians always wanted to have access to the seas, russia is a landlocked country so losing syria and that space is a big loss but there's other elements. russia does not like the fact that syria's fall is going to create yet another sunni dominated state. russia feels it has a soft belly of sunni muslims. >> warner: in its own...
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in syria today rebels fighting the assad dictatorship posted video of an air defense base that they claim to have captured the uprising against the 42- year-old dictatorship started 14 months ago and has turned neighborhoods into rubble, including those in aleppo, once a city of three million people. pt's hard and hazardous for reporters to get there, but clarissa ward returned to aleppo a assignment for "60 minutes." >> the town is totally different. people have deserted. sertver left here, they're living under bombardment. >> reporter: dr. maher nana left libya 13 years ago. >> people are just expecting to get hit at any time. a reporter: he runs a family practice in delray beach, florida, but now he spends much of his time traveling in and out of syria on behalf of an organization called the syrian support group. its goal is to transform the free syrian army from a disorganized grouping of militias into a coherent force. elt it also works closely with the u.s. government to identify credible rebel officers like colonel oqaidi and report on epeir progress. >> these commanders, they vow
in syria today rebels fighting the assad dictatorship posted video of an air defense base that they claim to have captured the uprising against the 42- year-old dictatorship started 14 months ago and has turned neighborhoods into rubble, including those in aleppo, once a city of three million people. pt's hard and hazardous for reporters to get there, but clarissa ward returned to aleppo a assignment for "60 minutes." >> the town is totally different. people have deserted....
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rainy and cargo plane that was bound for syria carrying military supplies for the troops loyal to the assad government so that tension in same setting up this meeting and setting up these deals that have been signed here in moscow all right peter all of our thank you. israel's prime minister has ordered a parliamentary election to take place early next year eight months ahead of schedule benjamin netanyahu is believed to be a banking on me swift poll to secure his reelection and a majority for his party right now he's struggling to get his austerity budget passed while brown bring up the war talk against iran election success could embolden netanyahu who's long been threatening an offensive against half crown but it's thought that striking before the vote could mean electoral defeat america's presidential election is also considered a major factor in the prime minister's decision as israeli historian and journalist dr ron paul explains. is taking advantage of situation the budget is. that to pass a budget is difficult but you could have done it but this is the best time for response to view
rainy and cargo plane that was bound for syria carrying military supplies for the troops loyal to the assad government so that tension in same setting up this meeting and setting up these deals that have been signed here in moscow all right peter all of our thank you. israel's prime minister has ordered a parliamentary election to take place early next year eight months ahead of schedule benjamin netanyahu is believed to be a banking on me swift poll to secure his reelection and a majority for...
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that bought bashar assad time. we gave russia veto power over our efforts through the u.n., and, meanwhile, about 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? have you noticed he never answers the question. >> we would not be going through the u.n. in all of these things. >> you don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe the saudis believe. that is underway. our allies are all on the same page. nato as well as our arab allies. in terms of trying to get a settlement. we are the ones that said enough. with regard to the reset not working, the fact of the matter is that russia has a different interest in syria than we do, and that's not in our interest. >> what happens if assad does not fall? congressman ryan? what happens to the region? what happens if he hangs on? what happens if he does? >> then iran keeps their greatest ally in the region. he
that bought bashar assad time. we gave russia veto power over our efforts through the u.n., and, meanwhile, about 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? have you noticed he never answers the question. >> we would not be going through the u.n. in all of these things. >> you don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces...
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obama said, we want assad out of power. he has substantive things to talk about on the debate stage when they debate foreign policy in two weeks and that ad is now irrelevant. >> don't you think this is a case of him saying, i'll do the things the president is trying to do but do them more effectively? >> there's a fair case to make and there's an opening for that. >> i agree. i'm not saying that's a bad thing. >> there's an opening the size of a pin drop. he didn't lay out his strategy for peace in israel. on iran, the best he could come up with was, i'm going to get tougher on iran because i'm going to have tougher sanctions. >> when barack obama came to office, he said, i'm not george w. bush, so therefore, i can negotiate with iran. >> he said he would open up all doors but he wasn't going to give you a seat at the table unless you wanted to come and talk peace. >> we have unsolicited advice on the other side of the break including helpful hints for donald trump. stay with us. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] its lightweight
obama said, we want assad out of power. he has substantive things to talk about on the debate stage when they debate foreign policy in two weeks and that ad is now irrelevant. >> don't you think this is a case of him saying, i'll do the things the president is trying to do but do them more effectively? >> there's a fair case to make and there's an opening for that. >> i agree. i'm not saying that's a bad thing. >> there's an opening the size of a pin drop. he didn't lay...
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we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances. putting american troops on the ground, that has to be within the national security interests of the american people. embargoes and sanctions -- those are things that do not put american troops on the ground. if you are talking about putting troops on the ground, only in our interests. >> i want to return home for the last few questions. this debate is historic. we have two catholic and its, first time on a stage such as this. i would like to ask you both to tell me what role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion. p
we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own...
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about whose hands the weapons would end up in because the objective that he stated it was to defeat assad seeing it as a stepping stone to iran iran is sending arms to assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them we should be working no less vigorously to our international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran rather than sitting on the sidelines so basically mitt romney suggested taking advantage of the crisis in syria to fulfill the goal of defeating iran and blatant but straightforward remark basically expressing the same opportunistic approach to foreign policy with the u.s. has had for many years while obama campaign called romney reckless and amateurish when it comes to foreign policy so far the administration has stopped short of directly arming the rebels although washington is coordinating the efforts of their allies in the region that is saudi arabia qatar turkey which are providing weapons to the rebels one way or another but those allies are saying that they only provide smaller weapons that they would love to s
about whose hands the weapons would end up in because the objective that he stated it was to defeat assad seeing it as a stepping stone to iran iran is sending arms to assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them we should be working no less vigorously to our international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran rather than sitting on the sidelines so basically mitt romney suggested taking advantage of the crisis in syria to...
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we should not have called bashar al assad a reformer when he was providing guns on his own people. we should always stand up for pea peace, for democracy, for individual rights. and we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts because what that does, when we ekwiv cate on our values, show that we're cutting our own defense, it makes us more weak, it projects weakness. when we look weak our adversaries are willing to test us and our allies are willing to test -- >> with all due respect that's a bunch of mularkemularkey. not a single thing he said is accurate. >> be specific. >> i will be very specific. number one, this lecture on embassy security, the congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for. number one. so much for the embassy security piece. number two, governor romney, before he knew the facts, before he even knew that our ambassador was killed, he was out making a political statement which was panned by the media around the world. an this talk about this weakness, i don't understand what my friend is talking about he
we should not have called bashar al assad a reformer when he was providing guns on his own people. we should always stand up for pea peace, for democracy, for individual rights. and we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts because what that does, when we ekwiv cate on our values, show that we're cutting our own defense, it makes us more weak, it projects weakness. when we look weak our adversaries are willing to test us and our allies are willing to test -- >> with all due...
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and get involved on the side of the anti-assad forces. >> yes. everything that we said would happen, if we got involved, is happening because we're not involved. al-qaeda is pouring in to the place. the massacres have increased. iranians and russians have increased their supplies and support of al assad and the tensions in the region are going up. look at syria, turkey, jordan, syria -- >> bill: sure. it's cauldron over there. >> absolutely. >> bill: i wanted to get your opinion on what you would have done had you been president. finally, were you surprised that president obama was so flat in the debate? he wasn't the guy that debated you four years ago. >> well, i think that there is a fundamental change here, bill, and that was in 2008, he didn't have a record to defend. and he's been living in a four-year bubble surrounded by an adoring media. this is the first time that he has really had to respond and he couldn't because he's having to defend a record which is indefensible. and i guess the second thing is that what is probably most impactful
and get involved on the side of the anti-assad forces. >> yes. everything that we said would happen, if we got involved, is happening because we're not involved. al-qaeda is pouring in to the place. the massacres have increased. iranians and russians have increased their supplies and support of al assad and the tensions in the region are going up. look at syria, turkey, jordan, syria -- >> bill: sure. it's cauldron over there. >> absolutely. >> bill: i wanted to get your...
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. >>> and syrian rebels fighting against the regime of assad, declare a victory, they say they shot down aircraft, there was no let-up in the violence as the opposition said 110 people were killed across syria today. >>> and a suicide bomb tearing across a busy market in northwest pakistan today. at least 17 killed, 38 others wounded. officials suspect that the target was a nearby building serving as a base for anti-taliban fighters, the explosion in the busiest time of day in the market. >>> and police in denver say somebody fired a single shot friday into an obama campaign office. no one was hurt, but people were inside the office at the time. nobody got a look at the suspect. but police say they do have a possible lead on a vehicle. >>> and republican mitt romney, mixing political rallies with debate prep this weekend. he has an event later this hour in lebanon, ohio, a few hours ago he went after president obama over the economy at a rally in portsmouth, romney spent the afternoon in a session getting ready for the tuesday's presidential debate. i want to show you something, the leas
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iran is sending flights over iraq to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq, we would probably have this. >> what is in the national interests of the american people. the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the ground, has to be within the national security interest of the american people. that means things like embargoes and sanctions, those are the things that don't put the troops on the ground. but if you are talking about putting troops on the ground, only in our national security interest. >> i want to return home for these last few questions. this debate is indeed historic. we have two catholic candidates, first time on a stage such as this. i would like to ask you both what role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion? please talk about how you came to that decision. talk about
iran is sending flights over iraq to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq, we would probably have this. >> what is in the national interests of the american people. the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the ground, has to be within the...
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there is no political organization to assad. so as bad as this is right now, we could make it a whole lot worse by dumping a lot of weapons in and then having a collapse and then having al-qaeda there taking over another base that we'll have to fight. so as painful as it is, there's a right way to do this if we want to help those who seek freedom and that is work the political opposition first before you start shoveling your weapons in. >> general clark and ambassador, you both made great points. and we have to move on our to fourth story "outfront," mitt romney speaking at length about the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi that killed ambassador stevens and three others and what he would do about the situation there. >> in libya, i'll support the libyan people's efforts to forge a lasting government that represents all of them. and i'll vigorously pursue the terrorists who attacked our consulate in benghazi and killed our fellow americans. >> eli lake has been out on the libya story from the beginning with what th
there is no political organization to assad. so as bad as this is right now, we could make it a whole lot worse by dumping a lot of weapons in and then having a collapse and then having al-qaeda there taking over another base that we'll have to fight. so as painful as it is, there's a right way to do this if we want to help those who seek freedom and that is work the political opposition first before you start shoveling your weapons in. >> general clark and ambassador, you both made great...